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Site feedback / Re: Link/button to old ae?
« on: Today at 06:41:56 AM »
just head to
http://old.aros-exec.net

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It is working again, for now. The old page wants old versions of most things, not sure how long i will be able to keep this one online as i do not want any security risks, so enjoy it while it is here.
Thank you very much 4play. I still haven't come around making a scrape, i'll start working at that if time permits.

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Help / Re: Upgrades
« on: Today at 06:38:38 AM »
@paolone:

Live updater.... hmz... isn't there something written about that in the (Ic)aros User manual that you put together ?

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I do not know what to say,
Perhaps you could start with some better description of the problems that you encounter ?

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I took another computer to dedicate it to aros,
Meaning... a non core2duo machine ?

It is very difficult to supply help if you keep changing configurations. Every configuration can have its own individual (and specific) issues.


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but nothing works,
That is a good example of a description that isn't helpful at all.

In your first message you wrote "stops in the initialization screen" which can mean about anything. I am assuming that you meant the (AROS) grub bootloader there but for all i know you meant the initialization screen of your bios/system.

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I've been using this system for years, I have to check with cards from other manufacturers and that they are not intel
Intel or not does not make a difference.

AROS runs on about any system i was able to throw at it over the years, but they all have their own individual workarounds and/or issues.

And yes, that does mean that if you have incompatible sound/network/graphics that not everything works as you would expect. Vesa, no sound, no network, IDE legacy being the bare minimum, but it runs AROS.

The more modern the hardware the more complicated workarounds and the more incompatible (default) hardware becomes as AROS is for sure lacking in some department. UEFI, Secure boot, USB 3.0 etc can make things a bit more tedious or sometimes preventing AROS to boot at all, but in such cases the hardware is usual such modern that you are far better of running AROS hosted or virtualized.

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Site feedback / Re: Link/button to old ae?
« on: December 12, 2018, 03:35:38 AM »
just head to
http://old.aros-exec.net

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Help / Re: Problem with my computers, which computer to choose?
« on: December 12, 2018, 03:30:08 AM »
what computer are you currently using, because in my two intel core 2 duo aros does not work stops in the initialization screen, I would not buy another computer and have the same result, now I must get an old pentium 4 paid 20 euros, however first I did not have these problems at least until the version of icaros 1.5.2
Common sabbate.....  You should know better then that  ;) (although i haven't tried with latest Icaros release).

Icaros Desktop 2.0 caveats and workarounds

AROS runs just fine on a intel core 2 duo there are sometimes simply issues with sata as well as issues with some optical drives (spindown).

PS: screw me as the link is not working... 4PLAY !!!!! HELP !!!! "Error : mysql extension not loaded" ?

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Free Pascal / Re: Heap compaction?
« on: December 03, 2018, 03:48:41 AM »
I think it might have been a memory leak. Can't remember the source.
Best is to use heaptrace right at the start of your development so these buggers can be catched (and dealt with) at the moment they occur.

At least on i386 linenumbers are present as well (-gl), which should be able to pinpoint their location for you without too much hassle.

In case you do encounter errors then feel free to mention those to us so that they can be addressed.

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The MUI stuff looks good. Would like a nice LCL proxy on other platforms be on the cards?
Not from my side.

It would require a implementation of MUI on those patforms and i don't see that happening any time soon. I don't believe i've heard ALB42 on that subject either (so i do not know his position on that matter).

FPGUI and some (common) LCL components are implemented in MUI so that you are able to do rad-a-like development although it clearly has its drawbacks. Both FPGUI and LCL have quite a different implementation in comparison to MUI.

It has alway been my intention to dig a little deeper into MUI and add some extensions to have some better matched LCL counterparts but alas i still haven't been able to find the time to do so.

I think ALB42's MUI classes (and MUIIDE) are a good enough alternative though.... and afaik even those lack enough participants.

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Still abstracting in code at the moment.
The joy of a every day programmer :-)

Sorry, as i've been busy so haven't been able to keep up with your development.

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Free Pascal / Re: Heap compaction?
« on: November 29, 2018, 09:06:25 PM »
The memory errors I hear about ....
I am not aware of any memory errors and haven't heard about them either....

Do you have a source for this rumour... or a specific example i could compile ?

is it specific to AROS (which architecture) Amiga(OS) or MorphOS ?, which (exact) version of FPC gives you these issues ?

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... are likely objects on the heap with no page table to compact the heap it likely gets quite fragged.
I've never encountered such issues myself (i'm aware that this doesn't mean much).

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Do you know how to find the exact object size and if there is any preamble like with ansi strings such as len and ref count.
Objects and classes are not reference counted. They are your own responsibility.

You can use class function instancesize to determine the size of an object instance. As stated there that does not take into account allocations in your custom objects/classes.

Other relevant information concerning objects/classes can be obtained using RTTI.

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I could make some pointer hackey data structs with better heap management with such info.
You could, but you shouldn't have to ?

Are you perhaps refering to old style objects ? These are another matter.

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Development (General) / Re: Set wanderer screen title
« on: November 17, 2018, 10:45:37 PM »
@paolone:
TS seems to want to it programmatically. Yes, TS can indeed search inside the sources for that but that would hide a underlying problem.

@Gundam:
Why would you want to do that ? I'm not questioning your motives there rather that it is uncustom to want to change that. The first 'workbench' screen is a special public screen and as such is somewhat of a special case.

The usual way of 'changing the wb screen title' is by opening your own window on the workbench in which case you can use SetWindowTitles() to 'change' the title of the screen. You could also achieve something similar by applying that to the workbench (backdrop) window..... that is, unless you do not have such window ? Therefor i had to ask why.

edit:
funnily enough i just had a little peek and there are two FIXME's inside SetWindowTitles() sources of AROS.... is that perhaps what you're hinting at @Gundam ? and fwiw and imho yes these should be strdupped.... (although i haven't checked with OS 3.x... it just makes logical sense)

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Development (General) / Re: Fonts with more than 256 chars
« on: November 17, 2018, 10:36:02 PM »
Amiga disk fonts are limited in their (stored) structures. According to the documentation it is bound by tf_loChar and tf_HiChar fields inside struct TextField.

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Free Pascal / Re: Lantin-11X
« on: November 16, 2018, 12:40:51 AM »
What's already in Unicode and good for console apps?
Available in Pascal you meant ? tbh i have no idea other than the occasional comandline util that could support it. Remember that unicode support is fairly new for FPC (it was available for a longer period of time in Lazarus).

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Or perhaps games? On the CLI?
As i expressed in the other thread con: games are not something to brag about on Amiga-like Operating systems because the way a shell window (CON:) is situated on top of the GUI.

Having said that, it is ofcourse possible to render your own (virtual character buffer) into a intuition window. That will speed things up considerably.

Most games i know of that require a character interface (TUI= Text User Interface) are rogue-like games. There are a couple available that are written in Pascal. I have two or three of those that i'm working on that are also able to render as graphical components instead of characters and those parts work as intended on AROS)

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It could be called the officially unoffical post modern ISO-ANSI-Windows code page. The future of punycode?
Having seen some commits @ freepascal svn tree it looks like preparation or a unicode console/TUI are a work in progress. fwiw it is a subject that also comes up in the Free Pascal forums on a regular base (although it seems less and less people are interrested in TUI, but are interested in unicode @ console)

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Free Pascal / Re: Welcome
« on: November 16, 2018, 12:16:06 AM »
Is code page 437 (classic IBM) available as a font
i'm sure it is...

... but i am assuming that you wish to use the box drawing characters in a shell window. If so then that is not a very good idea as a) the shell font is a system wide (user) setting and b) a shell window on amiga/amiga is (by comparison) dead slow. Amiga is originally a graphical OS... the shell is build on top of that.

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or does the IDE render gfx?
FP ide does indeed render the graphics into a intuition Window. One of the amicommon include files contains a (open source) vga BIOS font.

FP IDE (on amiga and alike OS) uses a virtual textmode buffer (with dimensions the size of the intuition expressed in a number of horizontal/vertical character count) that gets (re)rendered to the graphical intuition window when required.

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Development (General) / Re: Ide options?
« on: November 15, 2018, 09:21:53 PM »
Ah... i finally managed to locate your clifly work  ;)

Ok, in case you wish to add native Pascal support then i believe you already seem to have found your answer ?

Another way would be by using available libaries on AROS itself (or extractor in this case). Not sure but i believe that xad supports lzx ?

Of course using a native implementation means that you can compile/run your tool anywhere (provided the code used is processor agnostic)

Nice idea btw, and one i've been toying around with myself for a while as well now.... reason for that is that i seem to have to re-invent the wheel everytime i setup my build/install-scripts. There's always someone complaining not having bash or no sed/awk installed or alike.

fwiw feel free to add a dedicated thread for your questions on the Free Pascal sub-board....

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Free Pascal / Re: Welcome
« on: November 15, 2018, 09:08:19 PM »
so he is not anymore?
I have no clue whatsoever, so Your guess is as good as mine  :)

What i do know is that neither his usual handle or name is being listed as registered user on this new forum (you can check the memberlist yourself once logged in)

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I remember he usually posted his new programs here.
On the old forums, yes. Here on amigalife i haven't seen any sign of life of ALB42 so far.

It is heartwarming to see how you seem to miss ALB... and i can't blame you as he's a great person...  :D

You can always contact him either by using his website alb42.de or by using the freepascal.org (lazarus) forums (he does have an account overthere).

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Site feedback / Re: AROS' Tiny URL Resource Directory (A-TURD)
« on: November 15, 2018, 01:48:25 AM »
I think you could add it is an official site maybe some programmer would come in handy
Thank you sabbate. I've now added a separate sub-category for such links.

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Site feedback / Re: Painfull posting
« on: November 14, 2018, 11:46:27 PM »
@4pLaY:
Perhaps it is of importance (perhaps not, if so then please ignore):
If i travel to your top domain with the amiga forums then my firefox shows a visible session link in the URL bar. The ae subdomain however does not seems to do something similar.

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