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Platforms => AROS - Vampire => Topic started by: nikos on September 25, 2019, 05:31:48 PM

Title: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: nikos on September 25, 2019, 05:31:48 PM
This must be some of the best and most important news for AROS in awhile
With the legal battle regarding Amiga classic they choose AROS to not get involved in the never ending battle for Amiga OS and name.

Now we have hardware and OS that is kind of made by the users. It is a perfect fit. AROS have a home now that does not require all the mothern stuff
people been asking for.
Maybe next Vampire there could be a dedicated GFX card and god knows where it could go from there.

Future looking brighter for AROS than in a long time.

I will for sure buy Vampire and run AROS on it. This will be cool to follow.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: Jezry on September 25, 2019, 06:55:56 PM
Its great .
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: Samurai_Crow on September 25, 2019, 08:00:02 PM
This will also be a lot of work.  The SAGA chipset core in the existing Vampire has both Chunky and Planar modes integrated into the graphics meaning a total redesign is needed for the AROS graphics pipeline.  Current AROS versions assumed chunky screenmodes could not be used by an Amiga compatible chipset.  Likewise, the chunky drivers assumed that copper wasn't available on a graphics card.  SAGA has both at once now.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: aurabin on September 26, 2019, 01:51:33 AM
Great, good news.. when I have spare money I'll buy a Vampire V4!
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: miker1264 on September 26, 2019, 03:41:20 AM
Great, good news.. when I have spare money I'll buy a Vampire V4!

I have the money but I'm waiting for the V4 1200 to go on sale. I already have a V2+ for my A500. As soon as the install issues and graphics issues are resolved I'd like to run AROS 68k on my V2+ to see what it can do.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: wawa on September 26, 2019, 08:10:57 AM
they might be solved already. unfortunately i cannot test and confirm.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: OlafS3 on September 26, 2019, 10:45:05 AM
as I understand it standalone is now priority, followed by A1200 version after
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: nikos on September 26, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
Is not the first A1200 Version v.2?

I pre ordered v.4 stand alone. I have A1200 and A500 I don't like to modify anyway. Only added extra mem.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: OlafS3 on September 26, 2019, 11:17:35 PM
the features are planned to be ported back

the problem is the size of the FPGAs
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: miker1264 on October 10, 2019, 05:20:56 AM
At least the icons for AROS 68k on Vampire Accelerated Amigas or other RTG Capable Amigas don't have to be boring, colorless and gorilla-like.

The image on the right is 32bit PNG, the one in the middle is GIF, and the one on the left is an ILBM that can be made into an iff icon file.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: wawa on October 10, 2019, 11:00:30 AM
i would though tend to not too colorful icons. fir instance gorilla and glow ions are too kitschy imho. but its just an opinion. i dont want to force it through.
however it may be that 4-16 colors iff images are best for amiga platforms in general as common denominator.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: nikos on October 10, 2019, 01:23:23 PM
I agree With Wava. Simple is better and colors restrict from other colors on workbench. The drawers look Nice tough, so good job there.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: miker1264 on October 10, 2019, 02:48:52 PM
You may use Magic WB or Gorilla Icons if you want but it won't attract as many people to 68k.

What format are Gorilla Icons? Send me one and I'll examine it and make something better. The restriction as far as number of colors on Amigas over the years was mainly because of poor graphics and very little memory. Glow Icons used on RTG systems are 5 bitplanes with 32 colors.

The only thing that matters now is file size and how fast icons load and display. 8bit PNG icons are smaller than 5 bitplane GlowIcons because of very efficient png compression.

So again what are Gorilla Icons? 5 bitplanes GlowIcons or 8bit PNG Icons? Or other?

I'm making a Glowicon set for my Amiga OS 3.9 + Vampire to test load times.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: nikos on October 10, 2019, 04:43:20 PM
Magic WB is outdated. Sure you should use much more colors. Vampire can run 32-bit WB.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: wawa on October 11, 2019, 12:28:01 AM
@miker look into the aros source in the images subdir. all aros icons are png.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: wawa on October 11, 2019, 12:29:43 AM
@nikos simply that one can doesnt mean one should. guis are not necessarily best place to be oberly colorful.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: miker1264 on October 11, 2019, 06:13:41 AM
@miker look into the aros source in the images subdir. all aros icons are png.

I built AROS and I confirmed that in the 'Images' older the Gorilla Icons are 32bit png icons.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: nikos on October 11, 2019, 11:45:48 AM
@nikos simply that one can doesnt mean one should. guis are not necessarily best place to be oberly colorful.

I don't say colorful. It is many shades of lets say grey.
Title: Re: Vampire choose AROS 68k as standard OS
Post by: miker1264 on October 11, 2019, 03:41:47 PM
@nikos simply that one can doesnt mean one should. guis are not necessarily best place to be oberly colorful.

I don't say colorful. It is many shades of lets say grey.

My colorful new icons for AROS 68k are all hand composited and hand painted. They are copyright free as well. I'll make a few samples for you to try this weekend.