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Title: nVidia graphics
Post by: mtrr on February 23, 2019, 09:04:03 PM
Hi guys,

sorry for asking a probably stupid question, but I seem to hit a wall right now. How on earth do you activate native nVidia graphics using icaros desktop?

Cheers
lars
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: ncafferkey on February 24, 2019, 12:47:00 AM
If the card is supported by the driver, it should be activated automatically by the default Icaros boot entry.
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: mtrr on February 24, 2019, 09:06:27 AM
thank you, I got a GTX460, that should work, right?

cheers

edit: I dug through my pile of old hardware and found an 8800gtx, that one worked after removing the vesa entry, so my 460 seems to be unsupported
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: 1xe on February 24, 2019, 03:16:24 PM
Sorry to barge in like this, but my question seems relevant to the topic. What are some of the best supported Nvidia GPUs? This page (https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_support) is a bit of a mess...
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: BSzili on February 24, 2019, 03:49:53 PM
thank you, I got a GTX460, that should work, right?

cheers

edit: I dug through my pile of old hardware and found an 8800gtx, that one worked after removing the vesa entry, so my 460 seems to be unsupported
Fermi cards should be supported, my GTX 460 worked with AROS although at a reduced clock rate (the old nouveau in AROS doesn't support reclocking). I guess not all of them are compatible.
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: mtrr on February 24, 2019, 04:24:22 PM
thank you, I got a GTX460, that should work, right?

cheers

edit: I dug through my pile of old hardware and found an 8800gtx, that one worked after removing the vesa entry, so my 460 seems to be unsupported
Fermi cards should be supported, my GTX 460 worked with AROS although at a reduced clock rate (the old nouveau in AROS doesn't support reclocking). I guess not all of them are compatible.

I got another GTX 460, but that one needs 2 times PCIE power, the PSU only has one and it's kinda hard to get an adaptor on a friggin sunday
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: BSzili on February 24, 2019, 09:34:20 PM
If that one won't work either I wouldn't worry about it too much. Fermi cards will unfortunately run at the lowest clock speed under AROS, so even older cards can outperform them. The power consumption will be rather low though, if that matters  ;D
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: paolone on February 25, 2019, 10:28:16 AM
Hi. Sorry for late answers:
1. Supported Nvidia cards run automatically on Icaros Desktop with default GRUB option. If Icaros can't find suitable hardware, it falls back to VESA mode (instead of AROS' 16-color VGA mode). In a nutshell: if you see ScreenMode listing many resolutions, it means that the native driver is running.
2. best Nvidia GPUs for AROS are the ones ranging between the GeForce 6000 and 9000 series. Older and newer ones will produce unpredictable results.

Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: 1xe on February 25, 2019, 02:43:59 PM
It seems I may be able to pick up an 8800 GTX for around $15. However, the support page (https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_support) says "2d works but no accelerated 3d" and links to a non-existent page on aros-exec.org for more information... Can @mtrr or indeed anyone confirm that accelerated 3d now works on the 8800 GTX?
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: mtrr on February 26, 2019, 06:45:27 AM
I'll check later today
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: paolone on February 26, 2019, 12:37:23 PM
It seems I may be able to pick up an 8800 GTX for around $15. However, the support page (https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_support) says "2d works but no accelerated 3d" and links to a non-existent page on aros-exec.org for more information... Can @mtrr or indeed anyone confirm that accelerated 3d now works on the 8800 GTX?

Indeed, it's quite strange that 3D doesn't work on 8800 GTX BUT works correctly on the other variants of the same chip: 8800 GTS and 8800 GT. I can only tell you at home I have a 7800 and it works well in both 2D and 3D. Pay attention to monitor frequencies, though.
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: 1xe on February 26, 2019, 06:35:31 PM
Indeed, it's quite strange that 3D doesn't work on 8800 GTX BUT works correctly on the other variants of the same chip: 8800 GTS and 8800 GT. I can only tell you at home I have a 7800 and it works well in both 2D and 3D. Pay attention to monitor frequencies, though.

Thanks. I'll probably forgo the 8800 GTX and get an 8800 GT instead, no matter what @mtrr reports back. It costs about the same and seems to have working 3d. Compared to the 8800 GTX, its performance is only slightly worse (https://www.anandtech.com/show/2365/9) and its power consumption is much better (https://www.anandtech.com/show/2365/13).

In any case, I guess either is sufficient for most games on AROS?
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: paolone on February 27, 2019, 09:58:01 AM
Absolutely.
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: BSzili on February 27, 2019, 08:26:31 PM
Indeed, it's quite strange that 3D doesn't work on 8800 GTX BUT works correctly on the other variants of the same chip: 8800 GTS and 8800 GT. I can only tell you at home I have a 7800 and it works well in both 2D and 3D. Pay attention to monitor frequencies, though.

Thanks. I'll probably forgo the 8800 GTX and get an 8800 GT instead, no matter what @mtrr reports back. It costs about the same and seems to have working 3d. Compared to the 8800 GTX, its performance is only slightly worse (https://www.anandtech.com/show/2365/9) and its power consumption is much better (https://www.anandtech.com/show/2365/13).

In any case, I guess either is sufficient for most games on AROS?
The have different GPUs. Usually high end cards come out first, followed by the low to mid range with an improved manufacturing process. The 8800 GT has the G92 GPU while the 8800 GTX has the older G80 one.
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: mtrr on February 28, 2019, 10:25:58 AM
Indeed, it's quite strange that 3D doesn't work on 8800 GTX BUT works correctly on the other variants of the same chip: 8800 GTS and 8800 GT. I can only tell you at home I have a 7800 and it works well in both 2D and 3D. Pay attention to monitor frequencies, though.

Thanks. I'll probably forgo the 8800 GTX and get an 8800 GT instead, no matter what @mtrr reports back. It costs about the same and seems to have working 3d. Compared to the 8800 GTX, its performance is only slightly worse (https://www.anandtech.com/show/2365/9) and its power consumption is much better (https://www.anandtech.com/show/2365/13).

In any case, I guess either is sufficient for most games on AROS?


I have to apologize, it's not an 8800gtx but a 8800gts.

cheers
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: RC_tech on March 25, 2019, 10:08:36 PM
Is the GT 650M working? It's in my Dell Laptop, using Kepler and Optimus with the integrated Intel HD 4000.
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: paolone on March 26, 2019, 09:56:55 AM
I don think so...
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: The_Reaper on April 04, 2019, 03:07:48 PM
Hello, I just bought a nvidia quadro FX 380,
is compatible with Aros?
"Who has modified the wikipedia and why are not compatible FX graphics?"
A greeting.
Title: Re: nVidia graphics
Post by: salvatore on April 27, 2019, 07:03:45 PM
the minimum requirement for plays all 3d games optimally is on geforce 6000 series, well if have 512 mb of ram, i'm tested also doom 3 with success