General => General Chat => Topic started by: nikos on January 07, 2019, 05:32:12 PM

Title: Atomic Pi
Post by: nikos on January 07, 2019, 05:32:12 PM
Maybe this is what we been looking for?

Genuine Intel Atom x5-Z8350 quad core with 2M Cache. Runs up to 1.92GHz with a 480MHz GPU.  Eats RPi for dessert.  Beats some desktops. 
Loaded with memory: 2GB DDR3L-1600, 16GB eMMC, slot for SD expansion (up to 256Gb)
Full HDMI port with Intel HD Graphics & audio out
USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 ports
Fast dual band WiFI b/g/n 2.4 & 5GHz WiFi RT5572 IPX connectors on board
Bluetooth 4.0 CR8510
Gigabit hardwired RJ45 Ethernet RTL8111G
9-axis inertial navigation sensor with compass BNO055
TTL serial debug and expansion serial ports up to 3.6Mbps
Real time clock & battery
JST style connectors and a 26-pin header for power & GPIO.
Runs on 5V. Typically 4-15 watts.
Legitimate licensed BIOS boots from SD, USB, or Ethernet. Linux comes preloaded... Yes, it'll run Win10 64 bit.
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: cdimauro on January 07, 2019, 06:37:55 PM

I hope that the project succeeds, and hopefully lead to a 4GB RAM (or more) version.
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: hardwaregeek on January 07, 2019, 07:07:13 PM
why not start your own kick starter but I would suggest changing the cpu -AMD a6 now uses only 15watts and has better graphics see details here - and boost the ram.
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: cdimauro on January 07, 2019, 09:57:38 PM
I'm not an hardware engineer.

Regarding the AMD CPU that you suggested, it's a desktop-class CPU, so it's much more expensive and lacks some components, compared to the CPU used for the above project.
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: hardwaregeek on January 07, 2019, 11:08:03 PM
the a6 is now used in chromebooks uses only 15w- the chromebook can have here-
Is suppose to have 9-10 hours of battery life. This version uses the A4 cpu.
chromebooks can be hacked to boot normal OS see this video-  I know it shows how to install windows, but the process should be the same.
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: nikos on January 08, 2019, 12:21:28 AM
Seams x86 finaly compete with the arm Pi market. As we know aros and its software already work nice with this platform.
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: hardwaregeek on January 08, 2019, 01:51:02 AM
I just saw this-

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Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: cdimauro on January 08, 2019, 08:44:54 PM
This is a different PC with a completely different price range: the Atomic Pi is just $35...
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: hardwaregeek on January 09, 2019, 04:21:45 AM
It is the same class in the price range of low-cost PCs, under $200 us. You can not really say any pie type system is just $35. There the price of keyboard, mouse, case, and power supply. Which makes the system cost anywhere $70-90 US not including a monitor which would cost you $100 more. Total would be about at least $170 maybe more. Compare that now to $249? with about 3 times the cpu power and 2x memory.
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: cdimauro on January 09, 2019, 10:55:30 PM
With your "logic" then no PC or like system like a Raspberry Pi should exist. But they exist, and that happens because they have a completely different use case compared to a laptop or similar, and... at a fraction of cost (even including a power supply).
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: nikos on January 09, 2019, 11:24:22 PM
The point here is to compete with Pi. Keyboard, mice or whatever is something most have. A model from a common computer brand is not that interesting as it change every year. We are looking for something that at least is sold in huge numbers, so it is easy to get. As for the use of AROS on Pi I also first see it as a gameing, multimedia platform. A normal TV could cover manys need for display.
With the little form factor it is even possible to build a laptop around it.
It could even be used for other things with it's little form factor. The Pi been used inside robots etc.
Last but not least. The price. Yes, you need a power supply. You also need some kind of storage device. It is up to you. Use a usb-stick you have from before.
The point is to bring out something real cheap. Something everyone can afford and willing to spend some money on.
I seen Amiga 68k emulation on Pi. Not an easy thing to set up. At least not if you like to have 68k stuff on the hard disk.
AROS could solve that situation. Pi or Atomic Pi could be used with AROS and AROS 68k emulated with ready set up partitions. 
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: cdimauro on January 10, 2019, 09:58:59 PM
Exactly. And it might become a "standard" platform if it'll sold a lot, because the hardware will be "fixed" (more or less like a console), helping AROS to spread (once the Atomic Pi drivers for AROS are available).
Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: ntromans on January 11, 2019, 12:17:08 AM
And you'd hope, given the nature of the project, the Atomic Pi developers would be willing to share the hardware specs to help with the production of drivers.

Title: Re: Atomic Pi
Post by: cdimauro on January 11, 2019, 08:47:39 PM
The hardware specs are already shared, and at least for the CPU there are plenty of specs and even open source code (drivers).