Aros Vision Scalos

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OlafS3

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on: March 21, 2022, 10:00:15 AM
I am just fiffling around with Scalos and managed to get it working on Aros 68k. Scalos is available on contrib.

looks nice and is more sophisticated than 3.1 and Wanderer

Screenshot below

more informations about it:
http://scalos.noname.fr/

the interesting part (next to noone used it up to now for a distribution) it is available for aros so hopefully it will also be available on linux as alternative to wanderer.

Features:
100% Workbench replacement - All functions work like the original Workbench ones
Undo and Redo for most window and icon operation
64bit arithmetic - Correctly recognises harddisks over 4GB
Fully multitasking - Every window has its own task. While loading icons, any window function (e.g. Drag&Drop) is available
Icon imagetypes - All types are supported such as backfill or complement. Configurable surrounding iconborder
Icon datatype system - NewIcon datatype included. Icon support also visually highlights files which are soft-links in the file system.
Icon dragging is more stable - And far less flickery on graphics cards. Whilst dragging, icons are displayed with text and they become transparent over anything where they can be dropped! MUI-alike transparency on low colour screens. Real transparency if running at 15-bit or greater.
Cybergraphics and Picasso96 24bit color support
Window patterns - Unlimited and easily configurable via tooltypes
Optimised backgroundpatterns routine - Patterns can be tiled, centred or even scaled to fit into the windows. With the use of render.library, you get full control over the dithering and pen usage of your patterns
Live updating window scrolling - Supports middle mouse button panning too!
Drawer windows can be iconified
Menu preferences - You can enjoy fully configurable menus (includes ToolsDaemon and Parm import), including support for context-sensitive Popup menus
Application Interface (API) - Anything is possible from outside the program itself
Custom preference programs - For both palette and patterns. A pen-locker is not required any more
Nearly all Workbench preferences are used
Installation is very easy
Supports PNG icons with alpha channel and real transparency
Displays OS3.5 GlowIcons even on OS3.1 machines
Scalable icons
Thumbnail preview icons for images - Thumbnails can be permanently saved in icons
Completely confgurable, filetype-specific user-definable popup menus and tooltips
Plugin system to exchange or add features - It enhances the Workbench and makes it more configurable
Filetype plugins to display filetype-specific information. - Currently, EXIF information viewer for JPEG images is included.
Iconborders - Nice looking, Icontext variations (normal, shadowed, outlined)
Screentitle text - Shows what you want, how you want
Plugin included for 100% support of OS3.9 Workbench features
Plugin included for AREXX API compatible to OS3.9 Workbench
Online update with updater.module
And much, much more...
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Reply #1 on: March 21, 2022, 10:02:28 AM
as a small example you can make a window small on background and open it again by doubleclick. A feature available in magellan and amigaos 3.2 but not on wanderer. Themeing from aros also works



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Reply #2 on: March 21, 2022, 12:49:21 PM
as a small example you can make a window small on background and open it again by doubleclick. A feature available in magellan and amigaos 3.2 but not on wanderer. Themeing from aros also works

That's a simple future and we can add to wanderer, wanderer needs some surgical changes.

A graphical artist to redesign wanderer top to bottom than we
Developers to rework on and implement new design to wanderer..

Lets Build Not Destroy...


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Reply #3 on: March 21, 2022, 12:52:40 PM
I had thought about adding the Scalos option on AROS One as I did on my AfA One, see link, but it didn't satisfy me, you would need to have a more updated version of ScalOS, see second link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIt6XcGoeJo

https://youtu.be/awVjj0boX1M


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Reply #4 on: March 21, 2022, 01:13:59 PM
@serk118uk

People look at such cosmetic changes, users are "usually" very graphic orientated. Updated and improved wanderer would make more impression on people than rewritten USB driver even if the driver was much more work than the improvements in wanderer



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Reply #5 on: March 21, 2022, 01:15:42 PM
I had thought about adding the Scalos option on AROS One as I did on my AfA One, see link, but it didn't satisfy me, you would need to have a more updated version of ScalOS, see second link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIt6XcGoeJo

https://youtu.be/awVjj0boX1M

I will see how far it gets with what is available at the moment. It is experience for me I want to get for a later possible aros distribution based on AxRuntime



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Reply #6 on: March 21, 2022, 01:43:21 PM
Good to see you are making progress. Interesting what will be the final results of your experiments :)



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Reply #7 on: March 21, 2022, 04:19:46 PM

That's a simple future and we can add to wanderer, wanderer needs some surgical changes.

A graphical artist to redesign wanderer top to bottom than we
Developers to rework on and implement new design to wanderer..

I agree, you have to bet on Wander, once improved it will be more qualitative and more modern than any Workbench or its derivative !


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Reply #8 on: March 21, 2022, 04:39:51 PM
Kal talked one time about a new version of wanderer in his harddisk with new feature but not finished yet. If there would be a bounty for new version with features at least comparable to other existing desktops I would support it. As long there is nothing I can only use existing options.



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Reply #9 on: March 27, 2022, 12:31:24 PM
Good to see you are making progress. Interesting what will be the final results of your experiments :)

I have made some progress... Scalos now works as desktop replacement.

Next I look at are filetypes and menue

http://www.aros-platform.de/Scalos2.png



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Reply #10 on: March 27, 2022, 07:55:59 PM
@serk118uk

People look at such cosmetic changes, users are "usually" very graphic orientated. Updated and improved wanderer would make more impression on people than rewritten USB driver even if the driver was much more work than the improvements in wanderer

It's a shame he hasn't finished it yet however it is a huge amount of work he put into it.   Just the plugin system alone would be great.



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Reply #11 on: March 28, 2022, 10:05:45 AM
Good to see you are making progress. Interesting what will be the final results of your experiments :)

Hi I have a problem

I have managed to get it working as full desktop replacement. Now I would like to experiment with filetypes and menu but I have the problem that both prefs require filetype and menu plugin added. There are plugins in the package (contrib) but I only get a error if I try to add them. Could you look at it?



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Reply #12 on: March 28, 2022, 12:34:20 PM
I have made another progress

http://aros-platform.de/Scalos_menu.png

prefs seem to work now. Looking not bad. From first views it seems you can do context menu specific f.e. for a png and define filetypes. Of course GUI different to magellan but the options are extensive too. I will report when I progress



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Reply #13 on: March 28, 2022, 12:48:11 PM

http://aros-platform.de/Scalos_menu.png

prefs seem to work now. Looking not bad.

Indeed, is not looking back. Is there something wrong with Decoration? Seems like windows use default 3.1 look.

Does this mean the "menu/prefs pluging problem" you reported in previous post is solved?



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Reply #14 on: March 28, 2022, 12:49:08 PM
yes, it needs some files in same directory as prefs files to work

from now it seems to work