Is anyone actually testing ABIv1?

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Samurai_Crow

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Reply #45 on: December 24, 2020, 02:02:37 AM
Emu68 will run hosted on AArch64 (ARM64 bit) but it requires an FPGA for chipset emulation.  It's also by Dr. Michal Schulz, the author of Arix.



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Reply #46 on: December 24, 2020, 07:04:16 AM
it is not possible in a "petunia!" way but at least UAE integration should be as tight and transparent as possible
Do you mean like WinUAE which is sharing some resources (filesystem, networking, ...) from the host to the emulated environment?

You are right. It will never be transparent but it can get way better than it is now. A ready set up solution where partitions and the system is ready to run 68k software. I did that with AspireOS but the emulator is not on level with WinUAE and that is what it should, must be.

That's fine: the WinUAE model is, obviously, possible.

But requires development on both AROS and UAE side: who'll do that?

Emu68 will run hosted on AArch64 (ARM64 bit) but it requires an FPGA for chipset emulation.  It's also by Dr. Michal Schulz, the author of Arix.

I don't think that he's interested on any form of chipset emulation, but it's more like running o.s. applications as fast as possible. Chipset emulation will be reduced to the bare minimum to make it work, more or less like the Draco and (especially) Amithlon. That's the idea which I came-up looking at his work.

More complete chipset emulation is totally non-sense, since there's already WinUAE which is the best piece of software in this area.



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Reply #47 on: December 24, 2020, 10:37:26 AM
I am aware of that... perhaps not enough promoted or not "sexy" enough for some users. Generally the way to go in my view. And as I wrote in another thread... Amiga users should feel at home when using aros, and 68k emulation and integration is critical

for me three things are critical:
easy to install and fully support hardware (most users are not able and interested in fiddling around with complex configurations)
Environment must look and behave like amiga
68k integration is critical... there must be no difference if you install and use X86 programs/games or 68k, the difference must be hidden


Something like this, you mean?
https://vmwaros.blogspot.com/p/amibridge.html

If you're aiming at something better integrated, well: that's NOT possible on x86 or x64.


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Reply #48 on: December 24, 2020, 12:38:28 PM
Emu68 will run hosted on AArch64 (ARM64 bit) but it requires an FPGA for chipset emulation.  It's also by Dr. Michal Schulz, the author of Arix.

Emu68 will run on whatever Michal ports it to(hint there's no guarantee it's just ARM).  Also, he had no intention to personally implement it with an FPGA for the chipset(Not saying it couldn't be used).  Also, it's not "hosted" it's a bare metal CPU emulator with no underlying OS.
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Reply #49 on: January 02, 2021, 07:01:52 AM
Just answering the original question, I'd be happy to test ABIv1 wherever time permits (like right now). Actually I just tried the nightly ISOs for x86 and x86_64 but both died early in the boot process.



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Reply #50 on: January 03, 2021, 06:46:43 PM
I'd like to help too.



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Reply #51 on: January 04, 2021, 07:38:36 PM
I will try to test the raspberry version on a regular basis to make progress reports (from my point of view).

I saw today that there was also in the ABI-v1 Developer Tools section
the Linux-gnu-raspi-armhf-toolchain
Linux GNU crosscompiler for AROS ARM target

the developers want us to test the manufacturing of the assembly as well?
I will also be interested in it, because I would learn a lot, even if I certainly couldn't help the developers.



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Reply #52 on: February 02, 2021, 09:32:21 PM
I'm testing ABIv1 as it relates to projects I'm working on.

We (bsek) just fixed some Wanderer issues for copying and renaming that was unknown problems till recently.