AROS 68k updates from ApollOS repository

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Reply #45 on: November 23, 2021, 06:10:57 PM
deadwood, on the report made on EAB,  FS-UAE developer  "FrodeSolheim" intervened and asked me if it was easy to boot AROS 68k, and that he would like to try it.

I immediately prepared and attached on the post a HardFile with the "clean" Nightly Build installed (copied ISO content) and configured a RTG screen.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=108477


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Reply #46 on: November 24, 2021, 06:35:01 AM
Good, I see Frode has found the issue. At least we have clarity it is not related to AROS ROM itself. Thanks for taking this up!



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Reply #47 on: November 24, 2021, 08:15:43 AM
Yes with that fix now also on Amilator AROS One 68k works perfectly with JT active, and everything is as fast as on WinUAE

Frode also said that on his new version 4 that will be released, based on a newer version of WinUAE the problem will no longer be present.


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Reply #48 on: November 24, 2021, 08:36:52 AM
thanx for your help on this



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Reply #49 on: November 24, 2021, 08:50:37 AM
Good, I see Frode has found the issue. At least we have clarity it is not related to AROS ROM itself. Thanks for taking this up!

I do not know if it can be fixed with the apolloos commits already...

there were two bugs I saw a number of times... the problems with  fire constantly pressed (joystick)
the second when file requester opened the system freezes

both problems affect a number of programs but not all. For the second problem I have attached "cli-tracker". If you start it in cli the system immediately freezes (in my system) or at least application creates error and not continues (Wanderer). It also happened in last available nightly. Perhaps you could look at this issue that affects expecially applications.

Thanks in advance

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Reply #50 on: November 24, 2021, 09:17:51 AM
there were two bugs I saw a number of times... the problems with  fire constantly pressed (joystick)

The "fire that stays pressed" is caused by the "Lowlevel.library" if you replace it with an Amiga version the problem is solved.

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the second when file requester opened the system freezes

Regarding "cli-tracker" please send me a command string to test it on my system, thanks !

Also here I think it is a problem of a library "reqtools.library", if you replace it with an OS the problem will be solved.

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Reply #51 on: November 24, 2021, 09:39:11 AM
There are other native AROS 68k libraries that have problems with "AMiGA Applications" most recent and they are:

Icon.library -> to be replaced immediately to handle Dual-PNG, OS4 etc.. without this library by PeterK AROS One 68k could not exist.

Rexxsyslib.library -> important to start applications like ModExplorer

Warp3D.library -> With WinUAE version you have a hardware acceleration

XadMaster.library -> To transform archives into folders

There are other less important libraries that at the moment I don't remember


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Reply #52 on: November 24, 2021, 10:33:11 AM
there were two bugs I saw a number of times... the problems with  fire constantly pressed (joystick)

The "fire that stays pressed" is caused by the "Lowlevel.library" if you replace it with an Amiga version the problem is solved.

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the second when file requester opened the system freezes

Regarding "cli-tracker" please send me a command string to test it on my system, thanks !

Also here I think it is a problem of a library "reqtools.library", if you replace it with an OS the problem will be solved.

the lowlevel problem might be fixed by apollo team, the reqtools problem I am not sure

only use cli-tracker without any parameter, then it opens requester to let you select a file to play and in this moment a error occurs



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Reply #53 on: November 24, 2021, 10:36:09 AM
There are other native AROS 68k libraries that have problems with "AMiGA Applications" most recent and they are:

Icon.library -> to be replaced immediately to handle Dual-PNG, OS4 etc.. without this library by PeterK AROS One 68k could not exist.

Rexxsyslib.library -> important to start applications like ModExplorer

Warp3D.library -> With WinUAE version you have a hardware acceleration

XadMaster.library -> To transform archives into folders

There are other less important libraries that at the moment I don't remember

I use icon library from PeterK and xadmaster works (I am not sure which version I now use ;) ). Modexplorer CE (or how it is called) works but of course having full Arexx support would be nice. Copying system files from original installation is no option for me (in Aros Vision).

If you are about it, does printing in file work for you? Also do amiga applications work with it? i have not managed to print in file. It would be a workaround for real world using because it is possible to convert Postscript in PDF and the PDF could be printed on another system or even directly printed with certain printers.
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Reply #54 on: November 24, 2021, 11:49:55 AM
New roms: https://axrt.org/development/aros-rom-20211124.zip

They don't have any of the Apollo team changes yet, but should work unlike previous ones. Please let me know if you notice any issues compare to "Nightly build" ROMs.



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Reply #55 on: November 24, 2021, 11:56:20 AM
New roms: https://axrt.org/development/aros-rom-20211124.zip

They don't have any of the Apollo team changes yet, but should work unlike previous ones. Please let me know if you notice any issues compare to "Nightly build" ROMs.

thanks. I am not at home and will do later



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Reply #56 on: November 24, 2021, 12:16:32 PM

Modexplorer CE (or how it is called) works but of course having full Arexx support would be nice. Copying system files from original installation is no option for me (in Aros Vision).

No I'm talking about Modexplorer Full version, AmimodModRadio works discretely, see screenshot !

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only use cli-tracker without any parameter, then it opens requester to let you select a file to play and in this moment a error occurs

I don't have any crashes, see screenshot

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If you are about it, does printing in file work for you? Also do amiga applications work with it? i have not managed to print in file. It would be a workaround for real world using because it is possible to convert Postscript in PDF and the PDF could be printed on another system or even directly printed with certain printers.

I have not tried, I will test as soon as possible


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Reply #57 on: November 24, 2021, 12:26:28 PM
@AMIGASYSTEM

No error with cli-tracker?

i am only a little surprised. i got this error even with plain nightly (the last one officially available on the main branch)

Do you replace something in your distribution compared to a nightly? I use the original aros libs (except icon lib of course)



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Reply #58 on: November 24, 2021, 12:43:19 PM

If you are about it, does printing in file work for you?
With which tool would you print to File, is there a virtual printer on Amiga ?

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It would be a workaround for real world using because it is possible to convert Postscript in PDF and the PDF could be printed on another system or even directly printed with certain printers.

Why do so much work? on Amiga/AROS x86/68k thanks to an Italian user/developer there is a small program that converts text directly to PDF, you can also use it as an editor and print directly to PDF, see my little video attached.

TXT to PDF on AROS 68k
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rMs1YjWj0PXsmtfEKq-BKUIE9uMo8df1/view


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Reply #59 on: November 24, 2021, 12:46:56 PM
@AMIGASYSTEM

No error with cli-tracker?
I have tried to load files and at the moment I have no errors, the reqtools.library crashes I had also found on other applications. Anyway in my opinion it is not a problem of reqtools.library AROS but of the amiga programs not compatible with AROS 68k, it would be necessary to convert them to the native AROS 68k exe.