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OlafS3

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Reply #30 on: June 08, 2022, 08:22:11 AM
So to sum up the discussion:

1) There is no issues with DualPNG icons. It was a configuration problem.
2) There is an issues with right click - I just tried that under linux-hosted with Scalos from 20180423 release and I can right click and the select Information and get the Information panel - no crashes. Can you describe in more detail what is the problem?

with crashes he propably mean that pref files not work. Of course I have changed f.e. background and that is not included in his distribution. So my advice would be to use the original pref files from env:scalos in the contrib and only add menu13 because this is missing in contrib. Then he can change the settings. I do not get crashes too on X86. And you can use the config files on both 68k and X86 without any problem. As I described... there is only the problem with input and locale dialogs.



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Reply #31 on: June 08, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
So to sum up the discussion:

1) There is no issues with DualPNG icons. It was a configuration problem.

For me DualPNGs are not supported, see screenshot, unless the cause is elsewhere


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Reply #32 on: June 08, 2022, 09:07:52 AM
So to sum up the discussion:

1) There is no issues with DualPNG icons. It was a configuration problem.

For me DualPNGs are not supported, see screenshot, unless the cause is elsewhere

Have you done what I advised? It does not look so



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Reply #33 on: June 08, 2022, 09:27:50 AM
I have always used Scalos from "AROS-20180423-1-any-i386-contrib.tar" on AROS x86, where the Scalos preference program works but I do not have the Menu on the Workbench and the automatic layout does not work.

On AROS 68k Scalos, on the other hand, the Menu works and the automatic icon layout works as well,  not work Gadgets, I have to certify better

For DualPNG Icons if you don't have automatic icon layout you can't make the right assessment, on the Scalos site there is no information (at least I don't see it) about support 100%100.

See screenshot, graphical artifacts that could depend on Dual PNG ? The problem may disappear with automatic icon arrangement.

I would add that Scalos 68k was compiled with GCC 6.5.0 while Scalos x86 was compiled with GCC 6.3.0

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Reply #34 on: June 08, 2022, 10:18:50 AM
I have always used Scalos from "AROS-20180423-1-any-i386-contrib.tar" on AROS x86, where the Scalos preference program works but I do not have the Menu on the Workbench and the automatic layout does not work.

On AROS 68k Scalos, on the other hand, the Menu works and the automatic icon layout works as well,  not work Gadgets, I have to certify better

For DualPNG Icons if you don't have automatic icon layout you can't make the right assessment, on the Scalos site there is no information (at least I don't see it) about support 100%100.

So what you are saying is that DualPNG icons are rendered correctly when you enable "automatic layout". Enabling "automatic layout" works for you on 68k, but does not work for you on x86. In this correct understanding?



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Reply #35 on: June 08, 2022, 10:50:11 AM
Yes, as you can see from the screenshot, on AROS 68k it works auto disposition, but from the Wanderer menu, the native Scalos Menu is not present on AROS 68k.

On AROS 68 Gadgets don't work, also tried other Gadget paths
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Reply #36 on: June 08, 2022, 10:54:08 AM
On AROS x86 Instead the Gadgets work, but the menu does not work.

If you use OS3 configs the menu is there but the Scalos Preference Apps do not work


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Reply #37 on: June 08, 2022, 10:55:07 AM
there is a problem with theme on Aros. Both use theme: . To solve that  I copied the graphic files from Scalos in the aros theme files to solve that. I would recommend to have a backup of the env:scalos files when playing around with it. You can make preferences that make it unusable.
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Reply #38 on: June 08, 2022, 11:07:47 AM
I am not at home currently and cannot test it (will do later if there are problems). In general I would say Scalos is a little more complicated to setup correctly. That might cause some misunderstandings. Also it includes a lot of preference options, much more than f.e. Wanderer. If you do something wrong there it might look as a bug whereas it is not.



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Reply #39 on: June 08, 2022, 11:16:09 AM
@AMIGASYSTEM

Thanks for both screen shots. This is really a preferred way of reporting problems by me. It make clear what are the differences.



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Reply #40 on: June 08, 2022, 11:19:27 AM
@OlafS3

Yes, looking at the screen shots I can imagine the multitude of configuration options can lead to some settings that can be seen as bugs.



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Reply #41 on: June 08, 2022, 11:22:11 AM
there is a problem with theme on Aros. Both use theme: . To solve that  I copied the graphic files from Scalos in the aros theme files to solve that. I would recommend to have a backup of the env:scalos files when playing around with it. You can make preferences that make it unusable.

This happens only on 68k which uses Theme path: you can solve it son an "Add Path", or with a decimal editor change name, even a seplice volcale

On AROS X86 no problemas the Theme path is Scalos:Themes\Default_Theme


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Reply #42 on: June 08, 2022, 11:39:44 AM
there is a problem with theme on Aros. Both use theme: . To solve that  I copied the graphic files from Scalos in the aros theme files to solve that. I would recommend to have a backup of the env:scalos files when playing around with it. You can make preferences that make it unusable.

This happens only on 68k which uses Theme path: you can solve it son an "Add Path", or with a decimal editor change name, even a seplice volcale

On AROS X86 no problemas the Theme path is Scalos:Themes\Default_Theme

As far as I can see Theme: is set by startup sequence in both x86 nad 68k, see this part of startup sequence

Code: [Select]
If EXISTS "ENV:SYS/theme.var"
    Assign "THEME:" "${SYS/theme.var}"
else
    Assign "THEME:" "THEMES:AROSDefault"
endif

However does that mean you are aware how to solve the missing images on Scalos preference (what you call Gadgets) but you are still reporting this problem for the record?



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Reply #43 on: June 08, 2022, 12:08:52 PM
On AROS, there are two absolute paths THEME and THEMES.

THEME= Theme in use

THEMS= Themes Archive

If the AROS 68k themes are copied to the "THEME" path the gadget icons will show up in Scalos Prefs, but they will not show up on the windows on the Workbench, I do more testing and then attach screenshots.

Also if on AROS 68k you change Theme, gadgets will not be able to be seen because in THEME path moved to other folder :)
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Reply #44 on: June 08, 2022, 12:53:36 PM
Copied the gadgets in "TMEME" I tried to change the path but Scalos Prefs "can't save" because it crashes, after a while it crashes WinUAE too !

Gadgets on AROS 68k anyway are not visible on Workbench windows.


As said Scalos in my opinion is not usable on AROS 68k and X86, Work in progress, Wander is much but much more Stable and functional.