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on: June 07, 2022, 06:01:26 PM
Moved from another thread, please continue here.



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Reply #1 on: June 07, 2022, 06:13:04 PM
Thanks deadwood, you can move or delete posts Scalos


@ OlafS3

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Do you have tested it with icon.library from PeterK? On 68k I always use it. Perhaps it solves the problem at least on 68k


No 68k software can run on AROS x86

Also on OS3/Aros68k icon.library won't work on Scalos, Scalos uses its own iconobject.library and an iconobject datatype system, the icon.library by Peterk if present will be ignored !
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Reply #2 on: June 07, 2022, 07:01:04 PM
@Amigasystem

I have no artefacts with icons on 68k

@deadwood

I have tested the preferences on several win hosted versions. The problem is on all versions but I have seen something. The preferences work normal except you press input or locale preferences. Then the preference dialogs no longer open or at least with long lag. So it seems to be related there



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Reply #3 on: June 07, 2022, 07:40:17 PM
Hmm, by preferences you don't mean configuration files, but the actually programs in Prefs directory? So you are saying that when Scalos is used instead of Wanderer, some Preferences programs are not starting?



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Reply #4 on: June 07, 2022, 07:42:10 PM
BTW, let's use this thread to document issues, bugs etc with regards to Scalos. I will use this information to plan in improvements where needed.



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Reply #5 on: June 07, 2022, 08:17:40 PM
Hmm, by preferences you don't mean configuration files, but the actually programs in Prefs directory? So you are saying that when Scalos is used instead of Wanderer, some Preferences programs are not starting?

Yes exact. I do not mean the preference files in env: but the preference dialogs in Prefs. They work normal in Wanderer but if I try to open input or locale they try to start but do not and after that all the preference dialogs do not open or at least it needs a lot of time. As long I avoid the two (input or locale) preference dialogs open normal

I just tested it on Wanderer. All preference dialogs open but input or locale seem to need a little longer

On Aros 68k there is no problem
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Reply #6 on: June 07, 2022, 09:12:47 PM
Two more questions:

a) Are you doing your tests with preferences under Windows-hosted ABIv0?
b) Does Scalos replace programs in Prefs with its own programs or are "AROS" preference programs only being used?



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Reply #7 on: June 07, 2022, 09:30:49 PM
@Amigasystem
I have no artefacts with icons on 68k

A bit of clarity

- OS3 + Scalos the DualPNG Icons "are not supported", create artifacts.

Years ago there was a version of Scalos that in the preferences had a special option that allowed to ultilize an external icon.library that of PeterK, but only a particular version of icon.library

- OS3 + Workbench + Icon.library, DualPNG Icons are perfect no problem

On your OS3 with Scalos do you use DualPNG icons?

DualPNG icons, are two PNG images combined, while AROS and OS4 Icons are totally different, basically they are similar to the old PowerIcons icons used by Distro OS3 "AmigaSYS"


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Reply #8 on: June 07, 2022, 09:33:11 PM
Hmm, by preferences you don't mean configuration files, but the actually programs in Prefs directory? So you are saying that when Scalos is used instead of Wanderer, some Preferences programs are not starting?

Basically with Scalos on AROS x86, if from the Prefs folder, you run a "Wanderer" application for example AHI Prefs, and then run  a second or third application example, Input, Icontrol, these will not work or will do so very slowly.

If you run multiple Wanderer Preference Apps at the same time, the system crashes without causing errors

I haven't tested your new ISO D4 yet, I'm doing it now.
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Reply #9 on: June 07, 2022, 10:32:15 PM
@Amigasystem
I have no artefacts with icons on 68k

A bit of clarity

- OS3 + Scalos the DualPNG Icons "are not supported", create artifacts.

Years ago there was a version of Scalos that in the preferences had a special option that allowed to ultilize an external icon.library that of PeterK, but only a particular version of icon.library

- OS3 + Workbench + Icon.library, DualPNG Icons are perfect no problem

On your OS3 with Scalos do you use DualPNG icons?

DualPNG icons, are two PNG images combined, while AROS and OS4 Icons are totally different, basically they are similar to the old PowerIcons icons used by Distro OS3 "AmigaSYS"

Could you attach some of the icons that do not work so I could test it on my distributions?



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Reply #10 on: June 07, 2022, 10:35:20 PM
Two more questions:

a) Are you doing your tests with preferences under Windows-hosted ABIv0?
b) Does Scalos replace programs in Prefs with its own programs or are "AROS" preference programs only being used?

I use Windows Hosted ABI0 and no I try to start the normal Aros preference programs. Scalos has a special preference program but this does not replace the normal aros preferences. Scalos (as I understand) was at first designed as a extension of 3.9 using all system preferences. So Input, Local, Screenmode and so on are not replaced by it.



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Reply #11 on: June 07, 2022, 10:51:46 PM
Could you attach some of the icons that do not work so I could test it on my distributions?

All the Icons in my AROS One Distribution are "DualPNG", DualPNG you also get them on Aminet  native for OS3.9

These icons (DualPNG) on OS3 to handle them and see them well, you must have PeterK's Icon.library installed, or the AfA OS extension.


https://aminet.net/package/pix/picon/AlpyreIcons1

https://aminet.net/pix/picon/AlpyreIcons2.lha

https://aminet.net/package/pix/picon/kens_icons_v4



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Reply #12 on: June 07, 2022, 11:00:37 PM
Kens icons work for me

Screenshot (Scalos on Aros 68k)

http://www.aros-platform.de/kens.png

I have opened kensV4 from your links and all are shown correct

http://www.aros-platform.de/kens2.png

and here on X86 (Win Hosted with Scalos)

http://www.aros-platform.de/kens3.png

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Reply #13 on: June 07, 2022, 11:57:18 PM
Take a good look at your third screenshot, on some icons there is no filename (same thing happens on AROS x86 + Scalos, see my first screenshot), if you try to widen and narrow the windows you will see that some icons, especially the folders will be cut off.

Actually you have to see the icons as in my second screenshot made on OS3+AfA OS, but you can see them fine even on AROS 68k + Icon.library by PeterK

Also with mose you have to click on the uicona and show the Glow, and there you see the difference with normal OS3.9 icons (Glow Icon), which are not DualPNG.


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Reply #14 on: June 07, 2022, 11:59:29 PM
Here is the screenshot on AfA OS, the DualPNG icons are perfect