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on: July 10, 2022, 09:22:13 AM
Hello,

This is a thread created to discuss developments of Scalos for AROS x86 ABIv0, AROS x86_64 ABIv11 and AROS m68k. There will be a separate thread created later for AxRuntime version of Scalos.

Here you can find builds for all 3 mentioned platform: https://axrt.org/development/scalos-builds-20220710.zip

In the package you will not only find Scalos itself, but also additional components that need to be updated as well as default configuration files. Please update those components AND the configuration files.

Changes:
- Code base for all 3 targets has been synchronized and is identical. Any difference in behavior between them should as of now be due to Scalos bugs specific to a given platform or to a lesser extend differences in platform themselves.
- Preference programs have been fixed to at least load and save preferences without crashing.

Note: There were no other fixes made. Things, for example relating to PNG icons, should still be broken.

What I would like to focus on right now is the operations of Preferences programs. Please report any bugs you see there. You can also report other new bugs, but I won't be looking into them right now.

How to report bugs (IMPORTANT):

You might have your own configurations and setup of Scalos already working and you might want to just update them. This has already caused arguments in the past and unnecessary frictions because we were comparing different software versions and different configurations.

In order to avoid that this time, if you spot a bug, you MUST repeat the bug using clean system integrated with full release from scalos-builds.zip (that is also using configuration files from this release as starting point). I won't be accepting bug reports that cannot be reproduced on such setup.

For ABIv0, use this release as base: https://www.axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20190416-2-linux-i386-system.tar.bz2, alternatively https://www.axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20190416-2-mingw32-i386-system.tar.bz2
For ABIv11, use this release as base: https://www.axrt.org/download/aros/v11/AROS-20220318-1-linux-x86_64-system.tar.bz2

Once you repeat a bug in such setup, describe steps to trigger it - what should I click where to get to a bug. Screenshots or videos welcomed.

Have fun and let's get Scalos in better shape :)






« Last Edit: July 10, 2022, 12:42:33 PM by deadwood »



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Reply #1 on: July 10, 2022, 11:09:55 AM
with Windows hosted in the system generated folders (def_Drawer) you cannot enter, if you click nothing happens, this happens only if you run with Scalos.

Also if you do a "SnapShot" to an Icon strange things happen, the Disk System don't open anymore, the "SnapShot" from the Scalos Menu doesn't work, from the Wander Menu it works but some times the Ixcona will be corrupted.

For the test I used "AROS-20190416-2-mingw32-i386-system.tar" copied the Scalos in SYS folder and assigned the path SYS:Scalos
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Reply #2 on: July 10, 2022, 11:46:27 AM
For the test I used "AROS-20190416-2-mingw32-i386-system.tar" copied the Scalos in SYS folder and assigned the path SYS:Scalos

Clarification from my side: Copy exactly the structure as it is in the build_scalos directory, so Scalos should be in Extras/Scalos. Don't add any assigns or change any paths.

Also don't change anything in Startup-Sequence, this means booting to Wanderer and then starting Scalos.



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Reply #3 on: July 10, 2022, 11:51:57 AM
with Windows hosted in the system generated folders (def_Drawer) you cannot enter, if you click nothing happens, this happens only if you run with Scalos.

Please check on linux-hosted as well. It should be easy to install Linux into VM and then test linux-hosted.

I just tried on linux-hosted (20190416-2)  and I can enter C directory for example. Also icons for def_Drawer drawer display the same for me (low color) as for drawers with icons, where in your case they look different.



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Reply #4 on: July 10, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
The same thing also happens on Native AROS (your latest ISO) + Scalos, without Scalos no problem !

Mine have a different look because I had tried on AROS 68k to resave the icon as Icon Drawer

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Reply #5 on: July 10, 2022, 12:18:31 PM
Snapshot works for me and I only use the newst builds from this thread



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Reply #6 on: July 10, 2022, 12:19:51 PM
The same thing also happens on Native AROS (your latest ISO) + Scalos, without Scalos no problem !

Mine have a different look because I had tried on AROS 68k to resave the icon as Icon Drawer

It is more complicated to me. I copied all the files in the appropriate position and not just one assign to one directory. Also I start LoadWB from Scalos to start Scalos



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Reply #7 on: July 10, 2022, 12:22:30 PM
@AMIGASYSTEM

Try linux-hosted please. Unzip the base system. Unzip scalos_builds. Copy directories in scalos_builds/x86/AROS/ to AROS-20190416-2-linux-i386-system combining with existing directories there and overwriting existing files where needed.

See screenshot, it works on such setup.



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Reply #8 on: July 10, 2022, 12:26:20 PM
on Win Hosted X86 I have the same problem if I use "Show all" the directories are shown but I cannot open them (like C)



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Reply #9 on: July 10, 2022, 12:30:19 PM
The same thing also happens on Native AROS (your latest ISO) + Scalos, without Scalos no problem !

Mine have a different look because I had tried on AROS 68k to resave the icon as Icon Drawer

Looking at the screen shot, you have 2 partition system with Extras being on Work: as well as Scalos in located in SYS. Any of those differences compared to requested test setup can introduce a problem.



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Reply #10 on: July 10, 2022, 12:41:46 PM
on Win Hosted X86 I have the same problem if I use "Show all" the directories are shown but I cannot open them (like C)

Works for me as intended. See attached screenshot. Note however that this is using Wine - I don't have other means of running Windows-hosted. I'll remove WinHosted as base since we can't get same results.



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Reply #11 on: July 10, 2022, 12:42:01 PM
with Windows hosted in the system generated folders (def_Drawer) you cannot enter, if you click nothing happens, this happens only if you run with Scalos.
I am unable to confirm this behaviour on linux hosted x86-64, version 20220318-1, clean install, only scalos added as instructed.


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Reply #12 on: July 10, 2022, 12:48:06 PM
Deadwood I found the problems.... you must copy themes from scalos over themes in prefs/presets then it works in Win Hosted. I would prefer to use Win Hosted if possible



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Reply #13 on: July 10, 2022, 12:53:02 PM
Deadwood I found the problems.... you must copy themes from scalos over themes in prefs/presets then it works in Win Hosted. I would prefer to use Win Hosted if possible

Ok, I understand. There can be a number of reasons why this is needed on Windows but not needed on Wine. Since I can't replicate Windows behavior, for the time being I will only accept problems reported on Linux-hosted. Once we are in better shape in general, we can look into specific problems of windows-hosted on Windows.



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Reply #14 on: July 10, 2022, 01:01:27 PM
I have to report an old problem with Scalos Prefs that still persists, basically if from the FileTypes Menu you ask for a "ResetToDefault", all the FileTypes are assigned, but then if you try to save the "FileTypes" they are not saved
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