Wanderer Icon Exchange

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on: December 14, 2021, 03:48:33 PM
Any ideas or feature requests?

Separate application or Wanderer Built-in function?



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Reply #1 on: December 14, 2021, 03:55:05 PM
It would be useful to have the two methods, then it depends on how many icons you need to convert, if you have a lot of icons is very convenient a small GUI where you can drag and drop the files, but if you need to change only one icon or its type then it would be good to integrate info Icons on Wander, in practice what happens with OS 3.9


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Reply #2 on: December 14, 2021, 03:56:49 PM
It would be useful to have the two methods, then it depends on how many icons you need to convert, if you have a lot of icons is very convenient a small GUI where you can drag and drop the files, but if you need to change only one icon or its type then it would be good to integrate info Icons on Wander, in practice what happens with OS 3.9

I like the way it is solved in Magellan... you open "informations" and simply drag & drop the new icon in it



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Reply #3 on: December 14, 2021, 04:08:31 PM
If for example you need to swap images to 100 icons it would take a long time, with apps like IconCopy it takes a few minutes.

Also, with apps like IconCopy, you can transfer only the image, only the position on the Workbench, only the Tooltypes and much more, with your method you would have to set it by hand each time and it would take a long time and you might miss some ticks.

Moreover, not all people use Dopus5, Dopus Magellan totally replaces Wanderer and has its merits and flaws.


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Reply #4 on: December 14, 2021, 04:13:06 PM
If for example you need to swap images to 100 icons it would take a long time, with apps like IconCopy it takes a few minutes.

Also, with apps like IconCopy, you can transfer only the image, only the position on the Workbench, only the Tooltypes and much more, with your method you would have to set it by hand each time and it would take a long time and you might miss some ticks.

Moreover, not all people use Dopus5, Dopus Magellan totally replaces Wanderer and has its merits and flaws.

which flaws?

It is a modern and highly configurable desktop. I would never return to Wanderer.

Yes that option is certainly not best if you want to exchange 100 icons but when does a user do that?



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Reply #5 on: December 14, 2021, 04:31:06 PM
I agree.

I prefer both. A quick Icon Exchange in Wanderer Information. And also a standalone CopyIcon or IconCopy type application.

It would be a simple drag-n-drop using GadTools with options for ToolTypes like Magellan?

Maybe instead of using Wanderer Information simply make a new module dedicated to Icon Exchange?

Maybe a commandline IconCopy that accepts parameters would be useful as well for example to set up Dopus4 buttons?

I'll do some research on various Icon Exchange methods to use.



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Reply #6 on: December 14, 2021, 04:38:00 PM
It's great that CopyIcon and IconCopy work on AROS 68k but we need something designed specifically for use with AROS.

Without source code for either it's difficult to say why they aren't working to display icons on AROS 68k. Are sources available?



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Reply #7 on: December 14, 2021, 04:44:04 PM
It's great that CopyIcon and IconCopy work on AROS 68k but we need something designed specifically for use with AROS.

Without source code for either it's difficult to say why they aren't working to display icons on AROS 68k. Are sources available?

one of the apollo team is interested in your updated multiview and datatypes

where are the current ones? I do not find it in forum



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Reply #8 on: December 14, 2021, 04:55:49 PM
It's great that CopyIcon and IconCopy work on AROS 68k but we need something designed specifically for use with AROS.

Without source code for either it's difficult to say why they aren't working to display icons on AROS 68k. Are sources available?

one of the apollo team is interested in your updated multiview and datatypes

where are the current ones? I do not find it in forum

Later today I will post MultiView 68k and updated datatypes for 68k. I'll most likely put them on AROS Archives also with a link.

Within a day or two I will put together a version for AROS x86_64. And by the weekend I may have an x86 version. No promises. I have to set up my build system for x86. That takes some time.

Here is the MultiView PDF explaining new features and updates. I will gather the updated datatypes, latest DTConvertGUI and MultiView 1.8 and post them in a few hours.



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Reply #9 on: December 14, 2021, 04:56:39 PM
It's great that CopyIcon and IconCopy work on AROS 68k but we need something designed specifically for use with AROS.

Without source code for either it's difficult to say why they aren't working to display icons on AROS 68k. Are sources available?

one of the apollo team is interested in your updated multiview and datatypes

where are the current ones? I do not find it in forum

Later today I will post MultiView 68k and updated datatypes for 68k. I'll most likely put them on Archives.

thanks



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Reply #10 on: December 14, 2021, 05:14:36 PM
It's great that CopyIcon and IconCopy work on AROS 68k but we need something designed specifically for use with AROS.

Without source code for either it's difficult to say why they aren't working to display icons on AROS 68k. Are sources available?

Yes as I said CopyIcon and IconCopy, Iconcopier are very good tools, but with AROS icon.library they don't work with DualPNG icons, in the screenshot you can see how these programs and Dupus4 show correctly DualPNG icons
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Reply #11 on: December 14, 2021, 05:28:28 PM
It's great that CopyIcon and IconCopy work on AROS 68k but we need something designed specifically for use with AROS.

Without source code for either it's difficult to say why they aren't working to display icons on AROS 68k. Are sources available?

Yes as I said CopyIcon and IconCopy, Iconcopier are very good tools, but with AROS icon.library they don't work with DualPNG icons, in the screenshot you can see how these programs and Dupus4 show correctly DualPNG icons

I have some working code in my Icon Library for Icon Alias that copies images and ToolTypes from icon to icon. That's how Icon Alias works. It replaces icon images. I'll look at how portable it is. Maybe an AROS version of Icon Exchange will happen soon.




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Reply #12 on: December 14, 2021, 05:46:30 PM
Yes thanks, a simple GUI is enough for changing te immage on Icons, Wanderer is the best place, with Dopu4 it would be complicated.

Regarding the change of type of icons, on AROS One 68k I use IconType, very simple, just drag the icon, choose the type and click on Convert, also convenient for when you have to operate on many icons, IconType also works well with Dopus4 (other app), see screenshot.

IconType is another tool that is missing on AROS x86 and it would be nice to have it with your new GUI.
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Reply #13 on: December 14, 2021, 05:58:29 PM
Yes thanks, a simple GUI is enough for changing te immage on Icons, Wanderer is the best place, with Dopu4 it would be complicated.

Regarding the change of type of icons, on AROS One 68k I use IconType, very simple, just drag the icon, choose the type and click on Convert, also convenient for when you have to operate on many icons, IconType also works well with Dopus4 (other app), see screenshot.

IconType is another tool that is missing on AROS x86 and it would be nice to have it with your new GUI.

Many good ideas. I like the layout of IconCopier.

I'll start a new project called "IconClone" for Icon Exchange.

I'll look into a simple Icon Exchange for Wanderer as well using drag-n-drop. For the simple exchange only the images change.

The standalone GUI will have many options for Icon Exchange.





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Reply #14 on: December 14, 2021, 06:38:04 PM
Thanks in the meantime on Aminet I found the source of seticontype that I compiled with Murks on AROS One x86, the compilation was successful.

Tried the seticontype executable and it works perfectly, it converts the icon type to all icons including OS4, but it doesn't recognize and works only with DualPNG :(

http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/seticontype