Papercuts fund

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Reply #30 on: July 07, 2022, 06:45:44 AM
Okay so here's where we sit.

  • 2 Community members control the verification and payout system(mainly because we've had issues in the past of users not verifying bounties).
    Payout is twice a year or 10 fixes whichever comes first(Developer has the option of waiting).
  • Donations can be either one time or subscription with preference to single larger donations due to fees but all are appreciated.
  • Yearly nominations of the 2 community members(Assume nominate in December vote in January?).   Initial vote should be within the next month.
  • Papercut/trivial tag needs to be in the issue/bug tracker.
  • Outreach,  we need to reach outside of the Amiga/AROS community(maybe create a informational page?).
Thank you for the efforts on this! I appreciate it.

When FinalWriter is officially launched I will be donating part of the proceeds to the papercuts fund,   Maybe we can get it large enough to gain some attention. :)



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Reply #31 on: July 07, 2022, 03:10:52 PM
Thanks a great initiative :D


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Reply #32 on: July 07, 2022, 03:16:37 PM
We cannot start a campaign for Odyssey :-\


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Reply #33 on: July 07, 2022, 04:47:00 PM
I would like a odyssey fund as well. Updating odyssey is my primary goal, but I'm also keen to support paper cuts as well :) 

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Reply #34 on: July 07, 2022, 04:51:19 PM
I would like a odyssey fund as well. Updating odyssey is my primary goal, but I'm also keen to support paper cuts as well :)

the problem with webbrowser updating... it is a never ending story

whereas fixing small problems/bugs is hopefully finished sometime



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Reply #35 on: July 07, 2022, 05:03:19 PM
The thing is not so drastic, we are using a version of Odyssey in 2016 and you can still access many sites, I discussed this thing with Asigel Webkit maintains a certain compatibility even after years


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Reply #36 on: July 07, 2022, 05:14:14 PM
The thing is not so drastic, we are using a version of Odyssey in 2016 and you can still access many sites, I discussed this thing with Asigel Webkit maintains a certain compatibility even after years

Updating a browser is a large task. It could quickly become a full time job.  >:(



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Reply #37 on: July 07, 2022, 05:56:19 PM
I repeat myself as I wrote above then surely after years some service will stop working but will pass the years


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Reply #38 on: July 07, 2022, 05:59:42 PM
I have been using Odyssey and Aros with profit as the main station for years and I don't use anything about the mainstream and I have still found many useful and accessible services


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Reply #39 on: July 07, 2022, 07:00:25 PM
We cannot start a campaign for Odyssey :-\

You can but typically what I did in the past was I found a developer and had them help me write up the bounty.   Also it wouldn't be a papercut as it's a large endeavor.



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Reply #40 on: July 07, 2022, 07:41:12 PM
ok I understand ;)


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Reply #41 on: July 08, 2022, 08:24:22 AM
The thing is not so drastic, we are using a version of Odyssey in 2016
Mid-2015.

Javascript works pretty well. On the other hand, some of the page rendering is inexplicably worse than with Odyssey on MorphOS despite the newer engine.

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and you can still access many sites, I discussed this thing with Asigel Webkit maintains a certain compatibility even after years
Back in 2020, I said this: "In my opinion, the Webkit currently used by Odyssey on AROS is not that bad."

At that time, the browser engine was 5 years old. Now we are at 7 years.

I still would not refer to the browser engine as "bad" but, unlike wine, it also does not get better with age. After roughly 5 years, it is usually a good idea to think about upgrading your browser engine in order to maintain compatibility with mainstream online services if that is your goal.

Of course, if AXRuntime continues to evolve into Linux-based "AROS" distributions, then porting browsers might become a moot point depending on what you see as the future direction of AROS (native vs hosted, etc).

Anyway, I do not mean to derail the Papercuts discussion.



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Reply #42 on: July 08, 2022, 04:43:14 PM
I thought the current version of Odyssey could be correct by adding any corrections to the list

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Reply #43 on: July 08, 2022, 05:10:15 PM
I thought the current version of Odyssey could be correct by adding any corrections to the list

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You seem not to have any clue how fast webbrowsers change. There is not much left propably that not has to be changed now.



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Reply #44 on: July 08, 2022, 11:07:09 PM
I thought the current version of Odyssey could be correct by adding any corrections to the list

regards

You seem not to have any clue how fast webbrowsers change. There is not much left propably that not has to be changed now.

My personal opinion is the engine should be decoupled from the GUI and built as a library to allow for easier upgrades.   But don't quote me on that I'm not a developer. :D